well.......

[dwivian]

Not good enough.

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[cavalaxis]

crap. now what?

[dwivian]

100 more pages, and training how not to violate the restrictions on human subject testing......

[cavalaxis]

o_0

[grizzlydan.livejournal.com]

Suckage.

Fall, back, regroup, and give it another go, wiser for the defeat.

/Easy for me.

[gwinna.livejournal.com]

That's okay though. I know you worked extremely hard on it, but there's always room for improvement, and this is going to be the crowning achievement of your educational career, the thing that stays in print, and hopefully other people read, so there's certainly nothing wrong with taking these expert's opinions and using them to make your work the best it can be :)

Also, what's this about testing humans? ;)

[dwivian]

Part of the project was tested in class, to determine how well it worked. All the results of that testing are not allowed to be used in print since the instructor (and the author of the tool) failed to get permission to test on human subjects.

[gwinna.livejournal.com]

Sucky. How complicated was the test? Can you do it again?

[dwivian]

Sure, once I'm trained on how to do human trials, get certified by the NIH, and get approval from two boards, then get a group of students that have not used the software, teach them the subject, and validate their results. All by Dec 8th.

Or, after one or two more semesters, during which I get to pay to continue this class. Whee.

[gwinna.livejournal.com]

Uck. My condolences....

[dwivian]

Well, there is the option that I can try to prove my case without any real data..... It's my only shot, so I'm writing and hoping.

[gwinna.livejournal.com]

Good luck! :)

[zanna-voodoo.livejournal.com]

That is unfortunate, but fwiw, the human subject approval usually isn't too hard if it's not a medical or psychological test you're doing. The point is to be aware of potential risks of the test and assure the subjects have given informed consent. I went through the human subjects approval process for my thesis, (which originally was going to be a study via interviews and surveys,) and since the potential risk to my subjects was nearly nil, the approval wasn't difficult to get.

*hugs*

I know that you're bummed, but I agree that this will make your publication even better in the long run. Hang in there!

[dwivian]

I've already started re-writing. Damn the research, full speed ahead!

[dangerdyke.livejournal.com]

good luck. i only vaguely remember when i got certified by NIH for human testing, but i remember it wasn't all that difficult. good luck with everything. have a beer and a footrub. get a footrun *in* beer..

[dwivian]

Was this intended to be incentive to get help with the furniture? :)

Oh that blows

[mustangsally78.livejournal.com]

And sucks like a shop vac.

::::offers virtual booze::::

If you have to do the human trials again, maybe you could involve cattle prods and get a laugh while doing it.

Fucktards.

Sal

[yin-again.livejournal.com]

Oh, honey. I'm so sorry.

[bailunrui.livejournal.com]

I'm so sorry.

[xliquid-dreamsx.livejournal.com]

Well sir you know that old saying about if at first you don't succeed right? My complete oral career would have been over before it ever even got started if I'd been disheartened after my first go at it. Or my second or third or hell the whole first year even! So hang in there... the very best of things often take a bit of revision to become great.

[ann-mcn.livejournal.com]

When I was taking online education courses at UGA, each separate school system had a special consent form to use; would your university have something analogous?

[dwivian]

It would, if we had formal education courses. This was a synthesis of education studies and actual coursework at this university in computer science. Thus the problem -- nobody knew to do the form, and thus everything that needed one has to be discarded.

[ann-mcn.livejournal.com]

The more I think about this, the more disgusted I am with your advisor, who is supposed to know about these things and make you aware of them.

[dwivian]

I bear some of the responsibility for not asking more questions and validating my progress, but yeah.....

[spiritchaser1.livejournal.com]

awww dammit. *sigh*

[dwivian]

Yeah.... time to regroup.....